You can bet they will all come on the Coaster, at least the Coaster will have ridership on game day. The only good reason I can think of to support this proposal is that Sanchez opposes it! Use the Proposed Stadium Parking During the Week wrote on March 12, 2007 11:54 PM: Qualcom operates as a giant park and ride during the week, would be great for commuters to LA and San Diego if a rail went to the stadium
Floyd wrote on March 13, 2007 2:04 AM: If the Chargers think Oceanside has enough public parking, they need to visit the city on the evening of July 4th and see just how bad the situation will be.

Go away wrote on March 13, 2007 6:06 AM: I don't BUY it--the Chargers pay for an additional Sprinter Line? When hell freezes over. The Chargers need to take their big town mentality and take it else where.

While they are at it, PLEASE take Feller, Kern, WOod and Chavez with them. Recall the Mayor.
Randy wrote on March 13, 2007 7:04 AM: Isn't this the team, with a 14-2 regular season record, that still lost money for the City of San Diego this year?

To Fabiani wrote on March 13, 2007 7:04 AM: Don't go away mad ...

Just go away. Your crazy notion of putting that stupid stadium on that little golf course will do nothing but ruin my beautiful Fire Mountain neighborhood, kill my property values those of my friends/neighbors and make driving down Oceanside Blvd even more unbearable than it already is. NO THANKS!

To Floyd wrote on March 13, 2007 7:47 AM: Boy did you hit the nail on the head. I completely missed out on the festivities last July 4th because I couldn't find parking and these yahoo's think they can accommodate a stadium. Don't think so!

apples and oranges floyd wrote on March 13, 2007 8:13 AM: on july 4th, ppl driving around o'side are doing just that ...

. driving around o'side. the point of off-site coaster and other parking is to reduce the number of vehicles that would need to drive into o'side on game day.

this happens quite a bit with the new padre stadium. also, the giants ball park in downtown s.f.

relies heavily on mass transit. it was built with less parking than the s.f.

code would have otherwise req'd. it works just fine.
Fabiani-take your Circus elsewhere wrote on March 13, 2007 8:30 AM: Fabiani and the Chargers -GET LOST!

WE don't have the parking and it does not fit into to our town. We are a town of beaches , surfing and boaing. And it is developing into a very up scale place to live.

Why make it into a circus with a stadium! Go up to Anaheim! I am tired of Fabiani taking advantage of our city council people.

The Charger people are big shot wheelers and dealers and our Council is being duped. In a few years they will move on-looking for another town-who will be foolish enough to have them. Beware it will cost Oceanside dearly!

Go Chargers wrote on March 13, 2007 8:56 AM: The bottleneck is going to be the single-track line that extends from the Oceanside Transit station to where the proposed stadium is planned. Why? In order to accommodate an additional track (or two) the I-5 bridge span crossing Oceanside Blvd would need to be expanded.

I don't think Fabiani and Co. would be willing to foot that bill. They almost would be better off building more parking structures in downtown O'side similar to what San Diego is doing and then have a monorail system similar to Las Vegas to transport people from downtown O'side to the stadium.

In a magical world, the monorail could be elevated over the freeway. Pony up Oceanside wrote on March 13, 2007 9:43 AM: The San Diego bill for Qualcomm is over $400,000 this year, and that's after a record setting season with full attendance. Maybe Oceanside won't have to pay to build a stadium, but boy are these rubes going to be on the hook for expenses after that.

Sanchez was right to change her mind, but the others seem bent on putting Oceanside permanently in the red.
re:Floyd wrote on March 13, 2007 9:44 AM: Let the voters decide. Basically the nimbys in Fire Mountain are whining about a project that will benefit the entire city.

As for the Fourth of July, there is no game on the Fourth of July, EVER. That gridlock ont he 4th is a classic example of American laziness, folks can't take mass transist. Gotta drive the SUV everywhere.

Also explains the epidemic of obesity.
citizen wrote on March 13, 2007 9:54 AM: Oceanside is not a small coastal town. It's a big city that needs businesses.

That golf course is crap. Why not build it up and put Oceanside on the map. If the Chargers want to come here great.

I applaud the Council for even trying to get them here.
To re:Floyd wrote on March 13, 2007 10:30 AM: The nimby's whine because they don't want this to ruin their neighborhood for good reason. Everyone else will vote for it, not because it's a good idea or good use of the golf course, but because they don't live by it and won't be affected by it.

Either way someone is going to get the shaft. The only question is whether it will be those in the immediate vicinity or the city who will be nailed to the wall for all eternity with the nightmares guaranteed to follow such a project.
bye chargers city council wrote on March 13, 2007 10:36 AM: 'They' don't just want the goat hill property, 'they' want to take the CHARGERS property into your neighborhood.

Do you want 'CHARGER' traffic at Mira Costa/ Palomar? CSSM? Would you fight that traffic to go to Home Depot, OR Carlsbad Mall, NOT ME.

Of course 'they' don't mind putting those business out of business because IT ALL ABOUT THE CHARGERS, (that means Spanos dollars) Of course if you read the article neither would the charger people, notice they stay in STOCKTON. There is NO upside to having the chargers in O'side if you live in the area. NONE.

Lets say you make 100K a yr. you can walk by one of the Spanos homes on the 18th fairway of Pebble Beach when you pay $400+ for a round of golf, he can fly you there in his private jet,yet he wants you to buy him a stadium, with retail, so he can bring you 8 football games, then ruin your lifestyle with mototcycle races, soccer riots, let not forget rock concerts, not to mention the prostitution opportunies (see they say it will bring in jobs.) Be prepared to double your police force.

To even think of this deal, the city council should be drug tested. Lets see, playoff team and it still cost SD how much? Notice the Chargers said if the City didn't maintain a 'state of the art' stadium, they would SUE the city.

Can O'side even afford the law suits that would surely follow? They started out as the LA Chargers, that has a good ring to me, Think I'll go to Sears at the Mall and buy a wide screen TV be done with it.
to citizen wrote on March 13, 2007 10:37 AM: My bet is you don't live in North County
Hey re:Floyd wrote on March 13, 2007 10:38 AM: Since when is trying to protect your biggest investment whining?

You wouldn't want a stadium to kill the value of your 6 or 7 figure home either.
GOGOGOGO wrote on March 13, 2007 10:42 AM: Hello Oceanside Chargers and Good Bye Oceanslime.
George wrote on March 13, 2007 10:43 AM: I can see Floyd's point.

If you want to know what the traffic will be like when the Chargers are playing, just see what it's like on the evening of July 4th. And you're right -- folks can't take mass transit because it is inconvenient, slow, and doesn't go where you want to go. Qualcomm stadium can hold 71,500 fans.

If that seating capacity was duplicated in Oceanside, it would require 159 Sprinter trains (that's 79.5 hours at 2 trains per hour, more than 3 days) to handle the load. Another sprinter line?

wrote on March 13, 2007 10:44 AM: What baloney! We can't even get a bike trail to use west of El Camino Real..

this pipe dream is taking way too much city staff time. Why aren't they working on things that the neighborhoods want rather than this ridiculous idea?
We don't want you wrote on March 13, 2007 10:46 AM: Spanos.

.take your grandiose ideas and go away. You know you want to be in Mission Valley where the light rail runs right into the stadium and has 3 major freeways to accomodate the vast amounts of traffic the stadium generates.

The neighbors here don't want this and will fight it all the way!
Loma Altan wrote on March 13, 2007 10:47 AM: If you guys think this is such a great idea then why not put it in your front yard? I would lose all sense of peace and quiet and my enjoyment of my home.

Plus you will never be able to demonstrate that the Chargers will give the city positive flow of funds. Don't you people read? San Diego has been in the red for years!

to Loma Altan wrote on March 13, 2007 11:32 AM: Since when do you have the right to control the property in front of your house. Answer, you do not. That property is city property and will be used as the majority of the city sees fit, after an election.

Protecting Investment?? wrote on March 13, 2007 11:34 AM: So all city decisions have to enhance the value of your home.

I do not think so. Get real
To Robert wrote on March 13, 2007 11:43 AM: How about you stick to encouraging changes in your own community ..

. would you want the Chargers in Fallbrook?
To Protecting Investment wrote on March 13, 2007 12:01 PM: No .

.. all city decisions don't have to enhance the value of my home .

.. DUH.

But there's also nothing that says I have to allow them to destroy it in silence.
Don't Want To Move wrote on March 13, 2007 12:03 PM: If the Chargers move here I have to move out. Since someone will be moving, and they're still packing, there's plenty of time for them to find somewhere else to go.

They'll have a better chance than I of finding a comparable area in which to live.
How does it benefit you- wrote on March 13, 2007 1:28 PM: The Charger fans want it because they can see a game and nothing else matters-NOTHING! So what if we are in grid lock with some type of sports event in the stadium concurrenly with Harbor Days, or boat races, or concerts at the beach, or x-games, or Iron Man Tri-athalon, or a World Surfing Event, or Fourh of July, or Hispanic Holiday Celebrations, and a dozen other activities.

We can park at the local colleges when the students are not there-wow! Take all the parking spaces at the beach-wow! We can all take mass transit-wow!

We can build more railroads-wow! More freeways-wow! We can make it fit on Goat Hill-wow.

We can do anything for a Charger fan-they want to see a game-wow!! Whats in it for the CITY COUNCIL?

Come forth Accountants- wrote on March 13, 2007 1:41 PM: For all those who think the Chargers are going to benefit Oceanside-Put up or shut up! Show me the cost to Oceanside and the nuisance cost to the citizens. Show me the COST of Doing Business-fire, police, medical, crime, sewage, garage and the rest!

"PUT UP OR SHUT UP"- WHAT IS THE COST IN DOLLAR FIGURES? HOW MUCH PROFIT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FOR OCEANSIDE?
George wrote on March 13, 2007 1:48 PM: Whoops, I forgot -- the Sprinter will not be operating from 11 PM to 5 AM.

Make that SIX days to handle the load, not three days, assuming the game lets out at 10 PM. It could work on July 4th wrote on March 13, 2007 2:12 PM: if the city utilized a shuttle service and used the parking at the schools like Mira Costa and the high school. They just have not used the available parking for fourth of July.

This is something that should be followed up on to help with July 4th. I think we have to be open minded about the Chargers until ALL of the information has been compiled and considered. It is a long way from complete right now and too early to reject it out of hand.

To It Could Work wrote on March 13, 2007 2:46 PM: It's only too early if it's not in your back yard!
lauren wrote on March 13, 2007 2:57 PM: first, oceanside needs to be approved by the chargers. of course the city needs to come up w/ cost/benefit environmental docs before project approval.

there will be plenty of time to communicate before project approval by the city. i belive football games take place a limited time during a season..

. not each every day of the year!!

!!!

if a stadium can operate in the black bring tourist dollars to funky oceanside...

. why not??

???

this is a good thing..
To Lauren wrote on March 13, 2007 3:16 PM: Yeah .

.. those monster truck rallies, crowded conventions and rock concerts will be great when games aren't being played!

Ben wrote on March 13, 2007 3:40 PM: they need a new stadium, i'd rather stab my eyes out than see the chargers in a different city...

.oceanside step it up and make it happen..

..that and i dont see why the city of san diego even wants to keep the Q.

...

other than motocross events what else would be happening? tear it down and make a new stadium for our beloved chargers..

.only like 8 home games not including playoffs, if people really wanna bitch that much about traffic, (like there isn't already anyways), i say get oceanside some class with the nfls finest san diego chargers.
1 big mistake if we move wrote on March 13, 2007 4:05 PM: Making a Move is not going to be profitable for the chargers, I mean changing Cities thats wrong.

Keep the SanDiego Chargers a Home in SD. Don't play Marty ball with the location.Put more presure on SD and lets Keep the team in Town.

George wrote on March 13, 2007 4:35 PM: I think that moving the Chargers to Oceanside is a great idea. I live in Anaheim and really disliked having to drive all the way to Mission Valley. This project should benefit the overall community, not just the individuals.

So I say let's move them, the sooner the better!
To George at 4:35 PM wrote on March 13, 2007 4:53 PM: How about you stick to encouraging changes in your own community ..

. would you want the Chargers in Anaheim?
LO wrote on March 13, 2007 5:09 PM: BEAT IT!

!! We don't want or need all the BS that goes with having the stadium in our city!

!! Oh yeah a stadium will really put us on the map.

We are already on the map!! Beautiful beaches, Mission San Luis Rey, Camp Pendelton.

[sic} "THE STADIUM WELL ALSO IMPROVE ON OCEANSIDES GHETTO IMAGE." Yeah Robert..

.you have the nerve to bash my city and you can't even spell!!

Cowboy up!! Build the stadium out in Fallbrook if you think it is such a great idea.

There is lots of open space out your way. Bottom line, people will TAILGATE..

.they won't use public transportation! It's not only the Chargers that will use the stadium either, there will be Monster Truck rallies, Motorcross, Tractor pulls, Used Car Tent sales, and all the other garbage that goes on at a stadium!

! Forget it!!

Call me a NIMBY if you will, but I've got to live here...

you all get to get in your cars and drive back to your quiet and peaceful neighborhoods while we get to pick up cans, beer bottles, condoms and all the other trash that will be left behind. To M. George and the others- wrote on March 13, 2007 5:27 PM: Anyone notice that people from Anaheim or Fallbrook or some other place think it would be great in oceanside!

We get to pay the bill! All the pie in the sky schemes about public transportation , utilization of school or beach property for parking so they can see a game! How they could just catch a train or bus and go to the stadium.

READ PONY UP OCEANSDE, Written at 9:43 am today. What do you not understand about the San Diego bill due for 400,000 dollars for the stadium! The stadium in San Diego is a losing venture.

If it made money San Diego would not let the Chargers go, and would gladly build FABIANI his new stadium. Think about!